Entering and Chi Sau
Hey,
I wanted to bring up the topic of entering and chi sau. On Tuesday night, after doing entering, Jon had brought up the issue of if a WC fighter is going up against a boxer, should the WC fighter rush the boxer. From my own perspective, the answer would be no. Boxers reply upon drawing a challenger into their realm, and it is very dangerous to attempt to fight a boxer in such a fashion. The same can be said of any other style.
Scott told his account of fighting the monkey stylist a few years back, where the guy would roll away, and then back in. When the opponent made the mistake of closing in on Scott, Scott simply kicked the guy in the face. The same rule can be applied when fighting anyone who rushes back. With my bad knees, it would be foolish of me to do so, but when they attempt to close in, then I will use that to my advantage.
Entering teaches how to draw an opponent into a position that they project their intent towards us, which allows us to then bridge, and then to use the bridge to take their root and then take the, out, using the four methods of taking a person's root and line. When contact is made, then the language of chi sau comes into play.
That leads me to my conclusion, in regards to chi sau. There are too many people that use chi sau solely for fighting. It has reached a point that there are some that have chi sau "tournaments." This is ridiculous in that chi sau is not fighting. Unless your opponent knows rolling, then a the premise of fighting in such a way is lost. There are too many pathetic WC practitioners that have shown that the concepts of chi sau are lost against MMA fighters. YouTube is filled with WC fighters that collapse when engaging a non-WC fighter. This is not true of all, but the majority of those who do lose is much higher. A WC fighter needs to learn how to apply fighting skills in a non-chi sau format, against a variety of attacks that are non-WC. This should be not only in regards to empty hand situations, but also against weapons and multiple attackers, the latter being an obvious example of the weakness of ground fighting, in that there is no way for a ground fighter to win against multiple attackers. I saw the results of such a situation back in 1998, when a Gracie practitioner had his leg broken in three places by the friend of a person that he was trying to finish off on the ground. He had the gall to say that if the guy who broke his leg had known that he was using BJJ, he would not have dared attack.
The thing to remember is that in fighting, there are no rules. Skill is applied to the situation at hand. A WC fighter will learn the skills of combat needed to win in learning to fight in the concepts of entering.
Robert
I wanted to bring up the topic of entering and chi sau. On Tuesday night, after doing entering, Jon had brought up the issue of if a WC fighter is going up against a boxer, should the WC fighter rush the boxer. From my own perspective, the answer would be no. Boxers reply upon drawing a challenger into their realm, and it is very dangerous to attempt to fight a boxer in such a fashion. The same can be said of any other style.
Scott told his account of fighting the monkey stylist a few years back, where the guy would roll away, and then back in. When the opponent made the mistake of closing in on Scott, Scott simply kicked the guy in the face. The same rule can be applied when fighting anyone who rushes back. With my bad knees, it would be foolish of me to do so, but when they attempt to close in, then I will use that to my advantage.
Entering teaches how to draw an opponent into a position that they project their intent towards us, which allows us to then bridge, and then to use the bridge to take their root and then take the, out, using the four methods of taking a person's root and line. When contact is made, then the language of chi sau comes into play.
That leads me to my conclusion, in regards to chi sau. There are too many people that use chi sau solely for fighting. It has reached a point that there are some that have chi sau "tournaments." This is ridiculous in that chi sau is not fighting. Unless your opponent knows rolling, then a the premise of fighting in such a way is lost. There are too many pathetic WC practitioners that have shown that the concepts of chi sau are lost against MMA fighters. YouTube is filled with WC fighters that collapse when engaging a non-WC fighter. This is not true of all, but the majority of those who do lose is much higher. A WC fighter needs to learn how to apply fighting skills in a non-chi sau format, against a variety of attacks that are non-WC. This should be not only in regards to empty hand situations, but also against weapons and multiple attackers, the latter being an obvious example of the weakness of ground fighting, in that there is no way for a ground fighter to win against multiple attackers. I saw the results of such a situation back in 1998, when a Gracie practitioner had his leg broken in three places by the friend of a person that he was trying to finish off on the ground. He had the gall to say that if the guy who broke his leg had known that he was using BJJ, he would not have dared attack.
The thing to remember is that in fighting, there are no rules. Skill is applied to the situation at hand. A WC fighter will learn the skills of combat needed to win in learning to fight in the concepts of entering.
Robert
